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Ellen White specifically addressed the violence associated with labor unions, stating that for those involved, "Violence and death mean nothing to them if their unions are opposed" (4MR 89.2). She identified the underlying influence behind these movements as the "generalship of Satan" (LDE 23.3). In her writings, Ellen White explained that the unrest and violence seen in labor strikes are not merely human conflicts but involve supernatural agencies. She noted that "In every mob wicked angels are at work, rousing men to commit deeds of violence" (LDE 23.3). This activity is part of a broader effort where Satan is busily at work in our crowded cities,creating "confusion, the strife and discord between labor and capital" (LDE 116). She further cautioned that the methods used by these organizations often involve "cruelty and the force used to cause men to unite with confederacies and unions" (18MR 40.2). She described these unions as "satanic agencies" that would eventually contribute to a "time of trouble such as has not been since the world began" (SpM 260.6). For Ellen White, the rapid growth of these unions was a significant sign of the times. She expressed deep concern that "The spirit is working in those who profess to believe the truth, but who, because they do not live the truth, are always in contention" (4MR 89.2). She warned that the spirit of disorganization and pulling away from fellow laborers is in the very air we breatheand represents a "special effort" by Satan to lead people to choose their own course independent of God's counsel (TM 488.4). Practically, this counsel serves as a warning against participating in movements characterized by coercion or violence. It encourages believers to seek harmony with God and their brethren rather than joining "confederacies" that rely on force and disregard the value of human life. In conclusion, Ellen White viewed the violence and disregard for life within labor unions as evidence of satanic influence, warning that these organizations would play a role in the final conflicts of earth's history. --- 💡 **You might also want to explore:** • What did Ellen White say about the "time of trouble" mentioned in relation to labor unions? • How did Ellen White describe the "confederacies" that would be formed in the last days? • What counsel did she give regarding how believers should relate to worldly organizations and unions?

Ellen White spoke extensively about the dangers of labor unions and the violence associated with mobs, stating that "Violence and death mean nothing to them if their unions are opposed" (4MR 89.2). She warned that these movements are often driven by supernatural influences that lead to the destruction of life. Here are the quotes from the provided documents and conversation history regarding violence, death, and the shedding of blood in these contexts: * **On Labor Unions and Death:** "Those forming the labor unions are determined to have their own way. Violence and death mean nothing to them if their unions are opposed" (4MR 89.2). * **On Mobs and Wicked Angels:** "In every mob wicked angels are at work, rousing men to commit deeds of violence" (LDE 23.3). * **On Rebellion and Bloodshed:** "Blood has been poured out like water, and for naught. In every town and village there is mourning" (T09 12.3). * **On the Guilt of Bloodshed:** "By condemning the people of God to death, they have as truly incurred the guilt of their blood as if it had been shed by their hands" (LDE 245.2). * **On the Blood of Witnesses:** "If the blood of Christ's faithful witnesses were shed at this time, it would not, like the blood of the martyrs, be as seed sown to yield a harvest for God" (LDE 264.2). Ellen White explained that the rapid growth of trades unionswas a fulfillment of the "signs of the times" (4MR 89.2). She observed that the spirit of contention and the strife and discord between labor and capitalwere being orchestrated by satanic agencies (LDE 116). In her view, the methods used by these organizations often involved "cruelty and the force used to cause men to unite with confederacies and unions" (18MR 40.2). While some of her statements regarding blood being poured out like waterwere made in the context of national rebellion and the American Civil War, she consistently applied the principle that movements characterized by the spirit of the devillead to a disregard for human life (T09 12.3). For practical application, Ellen White's counsel suggests that believers should avoid any association that relies on coercion, violence, or the spirit of . Instead, she encouraged a spirit of repentance and preparation to meet God, noting that the "spirit is working in those who profess to believe the truth, but who... are always in contention" (4MR 89.2). --- 💡 **You might also want to explore:** • What did Ellen White say about the "time of trouble" and labor unions? • How did she describe the influence of "wicked angels" in crowded cities? • What counsel did she give to believers regarding joining worldly confederacies?

Ellen White described the influence of "wicked angels" in crowded cities as a supernatural force driving social unrest and mob violence. She emphasized that these events cannot be explained by human theories alone, but are the result of Satanic agencies working through people. The most direct description of this influence is found in *Last Day Events*: > "The labor unions are quickly stirred to violence if their demands are not complied with. Plainer and plainer is it becoming that the inhabitants of the world are not in harmony with God. No scientific theory can explain the steady march of evil workers under the generalship of Satan. In every mob wicked angels are at work, rousing men to commit deeds of violence...." — *Last Day Events*, LDE 23.3 ### Context This passage is found in the chapter "Country Living," where Ellen White warns of the increasing perils of city life in the last days. She explains that as society moves further away from God's law, the protection of the Holy Spirit is withdrawn, allowing "wicked angels" to exert a more direct and violent influence over human passions, particularly within the context of labor strikes and urban mobs. *** Found thousands of passages containing these keywords. For the complete list with filters, try the Full-Text Search: [Full-Text Search](/advanced-search?q=wicked+angels) **Book breakdown:** 1SG (130), 1SP (114), 1T (93), GC (88), GC88 (88)

Ellen White explicitly linked the development of labor unions to the coming "time of trouble," warning that these organizations would play a significant role in the social and economic upheaval of the last days. Found thousands of passages containing these keywords. ### Key Quotes > "The trade unions will be one of the agencies that will bring upon this earth a time of trouble such as has not been since the world began." — *Selected Messages*, Book 2, 2SM 142.2 **Context:** Written in 1903, this passage warns that the "binding up" of men into unions and confederacies is a fulfillment of Bible prophecy regarding the last days. She explains that these unions will make it increasingly difficult for those who wish to obey God's law to carry on their business or support their families. > "The time of trouble is just before us; and then stern necessity will require the people of God to deny self, and to eat merely enough to sustain life; but God will prepare us for that time. In that fearful hour our necessity will be God's opportunity to impart His strengthening power, and to sustain His people." — *Testimonies for the Church*, Vol. 1, 1T 206.1 **Context:** This 1855 testimony emphasizes the spiritual and physical preparation needed for the crisis. While it does not mention unions by name in this specific paragraph, it sets the stage for her later warnings that labor unions would be one of the primary "stern necessities" that force God's people into a position of total dependence on Him. > "The work of the people of God is to prepare for the events of the future, which will soon come upon them with blinding force. In the world gigantic monopolies will be formed. Men will bind themselves together in unions that will wrap them in the folds of the enemy. A few men will combine to grasp all the means that can be obtained in certain lines of business. Trades unions will be formed, and those who refuse to join these unions will be marked men." — *Testimonies for the Church*, Vol. 9, 9T 11.2 **Context:** Published in 1909, this passage describes the "binding in bundles" of the world's inhabitants. She warns that these unions are a snare of the enemy and will lead to a time when it is impossible for those who keep the commandments of God to work in many trades without compromising their faith. *** For the complete list with filters, try the [Full-Text Search](/advanced-search?q=time+of+trouble) **Book breakdown:** 1T (1146), 2SM (570), GC (413), GC88 (390), Ev (368)