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Based on the documents provided, Ellen White’s visions "confirmed the soundness of the position that an important phase of Christ's ministry in the heavenly sanctuary was entered upon on October 22, 1844" (CIHS 9). While the provided text affirms that she received visions regarding this transition, it does not contain the specific verbatim narrative describing the visual details of Jesus moving from one apartment to the other. In her experience, these visions were definite experiences, not just impressionswhere she "saw, heard, felt, and received instruction from the angels" (CCh 30.10). When receiving such light, she described being taken into the presence of Jesus and angelsand being "entirely lost to earthly things" (3SM 35.3). This state allowed her to witness heavenly realities that confirmed the biblical conclusions reached by the early Advent believers. The necessity of these visions often arose to protect the integrity of this point of faithagainst opposing views (CIHS 17.3). For instance, she had to address the claims of individuals like "Elder G," who argued that "there was no entering into the most holy place in the heavenly sanctuary as we believed and taught" (CIHS 17.3). Her visions served as a divine witness to the "soundness" of the sanctuary doctrine during times of theological uncertainty (CIHS 17.3). Regarding the specific content of what she saw, she noted that she was "just as dependent upon the spirit of the Lord in relating or writing a vision, as in having the vision" (MR1033 64.2). She explained that sometimes the things she had seen were "hid" from her after the vision ended and she could not call them to minduntil the Lord saw fit for her to relate them (MR1033 64.2). While the provided documents do not include the exact descriptive scene of the entrance into the Most Holy Place, they establish that her visions were the primary source for the "sacred" instruction she set before the people regarding the heavenly sanctuary (3SM 60.4). --- 💡 **You might also want to explore:** • What physical phenomena accompanied Ellen White while she was in vision? • How did Ellen White's visions relate to the Bible study of the early Adventists? • What did Ellen White say about her dependence on the Holy Spirit when writing out her visions?

It is understandable why you would feel that way if you were under the impression that she only gave a "stamp of approval" without a description. However, Ellen White actually wrote extensive, vivid descriptions of what she witnessed in vision regarding Christ’s transition into the Most Holy Place. She did not just confirm the doctrine; she described the movement of the Father and the Son, the celestial chariots, and the interior of the heavenly sanctuary. ### The Vision of Jesus Entering the Most Holy Place One of the most detailed accounts of this transition is found in her first book, *Early Writings*, in the chapter "The End of the 2300 Days." This vision was given to her in the late 1840s (specifically, elements of these sanctuary visions were received in 1847 and 1848) to explain what had happened in 1844. > "I saw the Father rise from the throne, and in a flaming chariot go into the holy of holies within the vail, and sit down. Then Jesus rose up from the throne, and the most of those who were bowed down arose with Him. ... Then a cloudy chariot, with wheels like flaming fire, surrounded by angels, came to where Jesus was. He stepped into the chariot and was borne to the holiest, where the Father sat. There I beheld Jesus, a great High Priest, standing before the Father. On the hem of His garment was a bell and a pomegranate, a bell and a pomegranate. Those who rose up with Jesus would send up their faith to Him in the holiest, and pray, 'My Father, give us Thy Spirit.' Then Jesus would breathe upon them the Holy Ghost. In that breath was light, power, and much love, joy, and peace." — *Early Writings*, EW 54.2–55.1 ### Context of the Vision This vision was given to provide comfort and clarity to the believers who were confused after the "Great Disappointment" of October 22, 1844. While the pioneers were studying their Bibles to understand their error, Ellen White received these visions which visually "mapped out" the biblical truth they were discovering: that Christ had not come to earth in 1844, but had instead moved from the first apartment of the heavenly sanctuary to the second. In another vision given on **April 3, 1847**, in Topsham, Maine, she was shown the interior of the Heavenly Sanctuary itself: > "I was wrapped in a vision of God's glory, and was shown things upon earth, but it is too much for me to describe. I was then taken to the heavenly sanctuary. The temple was opened, and I passed into the holy of holies. I saw there the ark, the cover of which was the pure gold mercy seat. On each end of the ark was a lovely cherub, with its wings spread out over the mercy seat. Their faces were turned toward each other, and they looked downward to the ark. Between the angels was a golden censer. Above the ark, where the angels stood, was an exceeding bright glory, that appeared like a throne where God dwelt." — *Early Writings*, EW 32.3 *** **Search Results Summary:** Found hundreds of passages containing these keywords. For the complete list with filters, try the Full-Text Search: [Full-Text Search](/advanced-search?q=m+very+dissapointed+that+she+couldn) **Book breakdown:** 2SG (33), 2SM (26), 1T (24), 2MR (23), 11MR (22)

Yes, there is significant context for that passage. The vision you are referring to is titled **"End of the 2300 Days"** and was first published in 1851. It was given to explain what happened in the heavenly sanctuary in 1844 and to illustrate the difference between those who followed Christ by faith into the Most Holy Place and those who did not. The most complete version of this vision (found in *Experience and Views*, which was later incorporated into *Early Writings*) includes a sobering description of what happened to the "careless multitude" who remained before the first throne. ### The Full Vision Context This passage describes the transition of the ministration of Christ from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place: > "I saw a throne, and on it sat the Father and the Son. I gazed on Jesus’ countenance and admired his lovely person. The Father's person I could not behold, for a cloud of glorious light covered him. I asked Jesus if his Father had a form like himself. He said he had, but I could not behold it, for said he, if you should once behold the glory of his person you would cease to exist. ... And I saw the Father rise from the throne, and in a flaming chariot go into the Holy of Holies, within the vail, and did sit. Then Jesus rose up from the throne, and the most of those who were bowed down arose with him: and I did not see one ray of light pass from Jesus to the careless multitude after he arose, and they were left in perfect darkness. ... Then I turned to look at the company who were still bowed before the throne; they did not know that Jesus had left it. Satan appeared to be by the throne, trying to carry on the work of God. I saw them look up to the throne and pray, Father give us thy Spirit; then Satan would breathe upon them an unholy influence; in it there was light and much power, but no sweet love, joy and peace." — *Experience and Views*, ExV 43 (See also *Early Writings*, EW 54-56) ### The Explanatory Context (The "How") Because some readers were confused about her description of seeing the Father "rise," Ellen White later provided a specific explanation in 1854 to clarify the nature of the manifestation: > "On page 55, I stated that a cloud of glorious light covered the Father and that His person could not be seen. I also stated that I saw the Father rise from the throne. The Father was enshrouded with a body of light and glory, so that His person could not be seen; yet I knew that it was the Father and that from His person emanated this light and glory. When I saw this body of light and glory rise from the throne, I knew it was because the Father moved, therefore said, I saw the Father rise. The glory, or excellency, of His form I never saw; no one could behold it and live; yet the body of light and glory that enshrouded His person could be seen." — *Early Writings*, EW 92.1 ### Summary of the Context 1. **The Timing:** The vision relates to the end of the prophetic period of the 2300 days (Daniel 8:14) in 1844. 2. **The Purpose:** It was meant to show that while the "door" to the Holy Place was closed, a "door" to the Most Holy Place was opened. It warned that those who rejected the light of the sanctuary message were susceptible to "unholy influences" because they were looking to a throne that Jesus had already vacated. 3. **The Nature of God:** The vision emphasizes the literal reality of the Father and Son while maintaining the biblical truth that no man can look upon the full, unshielded glory of the Father and live. *** **Search Results Summary:** Found thousands of passages containing these keywords. For the complete list with filters, try the [Full-Text Search](/advanced-search?q=I+saw+the+Father+rise+from+the+throne%2C) **Book breakdown:** 1T (2439), 2SG (945), 21MR (915), 2SM (910), 1SG (690)