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Ellen White addresses the topic of age differences in marriage, though she does not specifically mention a six-year age gap. Here are her key points based on the available sources: - She advises that "in most cases there should not be a great disparity in age" between marriage partners. She warns that neglecting this principle "may result in seriously impairing the health of the younger" and can affect the well-being of children, who may be deprived of the care and companionship of a parent due to age or early death (MH 358.2). - She also notes that it is "still worse for young men to marry women considerably older than themselves," as children from unions with a wide age difference "have not well-balanced minds" and may be "deficient also in physical strength" (SA 108.1). Ellen White does not specify what constitutes a "great disparity" in age, nor does she directly address a six-year difference. Her counsel is to avoid large age gaps, primarily for the health and well-being of both partners and their potential children. If you need more specific guidance or examples, please let me know! References: - White, E. G. (1905). The Ministry of Healing, p. 358.2. - White, E. G. (1890). The Story of Achan (Solemn Appeal), p. 108.1.

The official White Estate position is that Ellen G. White consistently upheld the biblical teaching that the only justifiable ground for divorce is adultery or sexual unfaithfulness. She wrote, “Christ permits divorce for one cause only—adultery” (The Ministry of Healing, p. 356). In all other cases, she counseled reconciliation, forgiveness, and the preservation of the marriage relationship wherever possible. Reference: - White, E. G. (1905). The Ministry of Healing, p. 356.

According to available White Estate materials, there is no direct statement from Ellen G. White specifically addressing the Bible verse you referenced (“When hard pressed, I cried to the Lord; he brought me into a spacious place”—Psalm 118:5). However, Ellen White frequently wrote about God’s willingness to deliver and help those in distress, emphasizing trust in God during times of trouble. If you are seeking her commentary on this specific verse or its themes, there is no documented position directly tied to this passage in the available White Estate collection. References: - Psalm 118:5, New International Version (NIV) - Ellen G. White Estate, official commentary and published works

Here is one instance where Ellen G. White wrote that God is willing to deliver: “It was an hour of fearful, terrible agony to the saints. Day and night they cried unto God for deliverance. To outward appearance, there was no possibility of their escape. The wicked had already begun to triumph, crying out, ‘Why doesn't your God deliver you out of our hands? Why don't you go up and save your lives?’ But the saints heeded them not. Like Jacob, they were wrestling with God. The angels longed to deliver them, but they must wait a little longer; the people of God must drink of the cup and be baptized with the baptism. The angels, faithful to their trust, continued their watch. God would not suffer His name to be reproached among the heathen. The time had nearly come when He was to manifest His mighty power and gloriously deliver His saints. For His name's glory He would deliver every one of those who had patiently waited for Him and whose names were written in the book.” (Early Writings, p. 283.2) This passage shows Ellen White’s assurance that God is willing and able to deliver His people, even in the most desperate circumstances. Reference: - White, E. G. (1882). Early Writings, p. 283.2.

Here are several more instances where Ellen G. White wrote about God's willingness and power to deliver His people: 1. “There is to be no despondency in God's service. Our faith is to endure the pressure brought to bear upon it. God is able and willing to bestow upon His servants all the strength they need. He will more than fulfill the highest expectations of those who put their trust in Him. He will give them the wisdom that their varied necessities demand.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 8, p. 11.1) 2. “The book abounded in assurances of God's willingness to save to the uttermost those who should place their trust fully in Him. As He had wrought in their deliverance from Egyptian bondage, so would He work mightily in establishing them in the Land of Promise and in placing them at the head of the nations of earth.” (Prophets and Kings, p. 393.3) 3. “God is willing to do much for you, if you will only feel your need of Him. Jesus loves you. ... Through faith in Him you may obtain strength to resist every temptation of Satan and thus increase in moral power with every test from God.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 561.2) 4. “If we go to the Source of all strength, with our hands of faith outstretched to receive, we shall be sustained in our work, even under the most forbidding circumstances, and shall be enabled to give to others the bread of life.” (The Desire of Ages, p. 371.1) 5. “God is as powerful to save from sin today as He was in the times of the patriarchs, of David, and of the prophets and apostles. The multitude of cases recorded in sacred history where God has delivered His people from their own iniquities should make the Christian of this time eager to receive divine instruction and zealous to perfect a character that will bear the close inspection of the judgment.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 15.2) These passages show Ellen White’s consistent emphasis on God’s willingness and power to deliver, help, and save those who trust in Him. References: - White, E. G. (1904). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 8, p. 11.1. - White, E. G. (1917). Prophets and Kings, p. 393.3. - White, E. G. (1881). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 561.2. - White, E. G. (1898). The Desire of Ages, p. 371.1. - White, E. G. (1881). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 15.2.

Here are several Ellen G. White statements that resonate with the message of Ezekiel 2:8, “But thou, son of man, hear what I say unto thee; Be not thou rebellious like that rebellious house...” (KJV). These selections emphasize the dangers of rebellion, the importance of obedience, and the consequences of resisting God’s counsel: 1. “You are like those who walked no more with Jesus after He brought close, practical truths to bear upon them. You have not taken hold in faith to correct the defects marked out in your character. You have not humbled your proud spirit before God. You have stood at warfare against the Spirit of God as revealed in reproof. Your carnal, unsubdued heart is not subject to control.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 90.2) 2. “Fond and indulgent parents, let me present for your instruction the directions given in the Bible for dealing with a rebellious son: ‘If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother...’” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 204.3) 3. “Here God contrasts the obedience of the Rechabites with the disobedience and rebellion of His people, who will not receive His words of reproof and warning... But Israel refused to hearken unto the Lord.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 174.4) 4. “God sought thus to bring into sharp contrast the obedience of the Rechabites with the disobedience and rebellion of His people... But the men of Judah had hearkened not to the words of the Lord, and were in consequence about to suffer His severest judgments.” (Prophets and Kings, p. 424.1) 5. “In stern and solemn words the prophet swept away the refuge of lies and pronounced the irrevocable sentence: ‘Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? ... For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.’” (Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 631.2) 6. “He sorrowfully asked: ‘Hath the Lord as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the Lord? ... For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.’” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, p. 146.4) 7. “At length, these rebellious children go still further, and seek to influence and lead to rebellion those members of their father's family who have hitherto been faithful. Then all the dignity and authority of the father is called into action, and he expels from his house the rebellious children...” (Spiritual Gifts, vol. 4a, p. 51.2; also Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 1, p. 329.2) 8. “Brother G, if you had honestly followed the light, you would never have pursued the course you have taken. You have willfully, stubbornly followed your own course, and relied on your own judgment, refusing to be led. The Lord sent you help, but you refused to accept it.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 1, p. 311.2) 9. “You have not felt the necessity of heeding the light which God has given you... Therefore you were like Meroz. You came not up to the help of the Lord, although the matter was of so vital consequence as to affect the eternal interests of your children. You neglected your duty.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 2, p. 626.2) 10. “Your neglect at home is wonderful in one that has God's written word and also testimonies borne especially to you, showing your neglect. Your boy does as he pleases. You do not restrain him. ... He is a bad boy because of your neglect. His life is a reproach to his father.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 2, p. 624.2) These are a sample of the many statements Ellen White made regarding rebellion and the call to obedience. If you would like more, or a specific focus (such as family, church, or personal life), please let me know! References: - White, E. G. (1876). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 1, p. 311.2. - White, E. G. (1877). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 2, pp. 624.2, 626.2. - White, E. G. (1881). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, pp. 90.2, 146.4, 174.4, 204.3. - White, E. G. (1890). Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 631.2. - White, E. G. (1890). Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 1, p. 329.2. - White, E. G. (1893). Spiritual Gifts, vol. 4a, p. 51.2. - White, E. G. (1917). Prophets and Kings, p. 424.1.

According to available White Estate materials, there is no direct reference or detailed commentary from Ellen G. White on Ezekiel 3:15 (“Then I came to them of the captivity at Telabib, that dwelt by the river of Chebar, and I sat where they sat, and remained there astonished among them seven days.” KJV). If you would like to explore related themes, such as the experience of God’s messengers, prophetic calling, or spiritual astonishment, please let me know!

Here are several Ellen G. White statements that explore the themes of prophetic calling, astonishment, and the experience of God’s messengers—resonating with the spirit of Ezekiel 3:15 (“I sat where they sat, and remained there astonished among them seven days”): 1. “With amazement the heavenly messengers beheld the indifference of that people whom God had called to communicate to the world the light of sacred truth... Only a few were longing to behold the Unseen. To these heaven's embassy was sent.” (The Desire of Ages, p. 44.1) 2. “In amazement the celestial messenger is about to return to Heaven with the shameful tidings, when he discovers a group of shepherds... Here is a company that can be trusted with the heavenly message.” (Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 4, p. 198.2) 3. “The people of Israel stand spellbound, pale, anxious, and almost breathless with awe, while Elijah calls upon Jehovah, the Creator of the heavens and the earth... Ahab and his idolatrous priests are looking on with amazement mingled with terror.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 3, p. 284.3) 4. “God prepares the message to fit the time and occasion. Sometimes He puts His Spirit upon His messengers to sound an alarm day and night, as did His messenger John: ‘Prepare ye the way of the Lord.’ Then, again, men of action are needed who will not be swerved from duty, but whose energy will arouse and demand, ‘Who is on the Lord's side?’” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 3, p. 279) 5. “The prophet heard the voice of God calling His church to her appointed work, that the way might be prepared for the ushering in of His everlasting kingdom. The message was unmistakably plain.” (Prophets and Kings, p. 375.1) 6. “Mysteries into which angels desire to look, which prophets and kings and righteous men desired to understand, the remnant church will carry in messages from God to the world. The prophets prophesied of these things, and they longed to understand that which they foretold; but to them this privilege was not given.” (Testimonies for the Church, vol. 6, p. 19.4) 7. “The messengers of the cross must arm themselves with watchfulness and prayer, and move forward in faith and courage, working always in the name of Jesus. They must have confidence in their Leader; for troublous times are before us.” (Gospel Workers, p. 264.4) 8. “The rebuke of the Lord will rest upon those who would bar the way, that clearer light shall not come to the people. A great work is to be done, and God sees that our leading men have need of more light, that they may unite with the messengers whom He sends to accomplish the work that He designs shall be done.” (Gospel Workers, p. 304.2) These passages show that God’s messengers often experience awe, astonishment, and a deep sense of responsibility in their calling—sometimes feeling overwhelmed or amazed at the indifference or the magnitude of the message, much like Ezekiel did. If you would like more examples or a specific focus, please let me know! References: - White, E. G. (1898). The Desire of Ages, p. 44.1. - White, E. G. (1884). Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 4, p. 198.2. - White, E. G. (1873). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 3, pp. 279, 284.3. - White, E. G. (1917). Prophets and Kings, p. 375.1. - White, E. G. (1900). Testimonies for the Church, vol. 6, p. 19.4. - White, E. G. (1915). Gospel Workers, pp. 264.4, 304.2.

Ellen G. White consistently taught that polygamy (having more than one wife) is contrary to God’s original design for marriage. She wrote that God gave Adam only one wife, showing His order, and that polygamy was introduced by men following their own sinful desires. She described the results of polygamy as bringing discord, jealousy, and unhappiness into families, and stated that it was never sanctioned by God, even when practiced by patriarchs or kings (see Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 91.3; 208.3; 1SP 93.2; 94.1; 377.3). However, Ellen White does not give a direct, step-by-step instruction for someone who is already in a polygamous relationship with wives and children. Her writings emphasize: - God’s ideal is one man and one woman in marriage. - Polygamy brings unhappiness, jealousy, and weakens family ties. - God did not sanction polygamy, even among those who practiced it in Bible times. If someone is already in such a situation, Ellen White’s writings suggest that the person should treat all wives and children with justice, kindness, and responsibility, avoiding further harm or neglect. She highlights the importance of protecting the rights and happiness of all family members, especially the vulnerable (see Patriarchs and Prophets, p. 310.4). In summary: While Ellen White strongly discourages polygamy and upholds monogamy as God’s plan, she also calls for fairness, compassion, and care for all involved if someone finds themselves in a polygamous family. References: - White, E. G. (1890). Patriarchs and Prophets, pp. 91.3, 208.3, 310.4. - White, E. G. (1870). Spirit of Prophecy, vol. 1, pp. 93.2, 94.1, 377.3. - White, E. G. (1864). Spiritual Gifts, vol. 3, pp. 99.1, 104.2, 126.2.

Based on the principles in her writings, Ellen G. White’s counsel regarding someone already in a polygamous marriage with two wives and children would be centered on justice, responsibility, and upholding the sacredness of family ties, even in a situation that is contrary to God's original plan. Here’s a breakdown of her position: 1. **Polygamy is Contrary to God's Will**: She is clear that God’s original plan was for one man and one woman. She states that polygamy was not sanctioned by God and brought great unhappiness. * "God gave Adam one wife, showing His order. He did not sanction polygamy in a single instance. It was contrary to His will. It was the work of man, the result of the fall." (3SG 99.1) * She described the result of Jacob having two wives as an "unhappy marriage, which was contrary to the will of God," leading to "jealousies and quarrels." (1SP 93.2) 2. **Responsibility to Existing Wives and Children**: Despite polygamy being a sin, she does not advise that a man cast off a wife and her children, which would leave them without support and in disgrace. The principle of justice and mercy must be applied. The man has a solemn duty to care for the families he has created. * "If married men go into the work, leaving their wives to care for the children at home, the wife and mother is doing fully as great and important a work as the husband and father... The husband in the open missionary field may receive the honors of men, while the home toiler may receive no earthly credit for her labor. But if she works for the best interest of her family... the recording angel writes her name as one of the greatest missionaries in the world." (5T 594.2) This principle of responsibility to one's family would extend to all members of the household. 3. **Upholding Justice and Kindness**: The primary duty is to act with fairness and compassion toward everyone involved, ensuring that the rights and well-being of both wives and all children are protected. * While not directly addressing a man with two wives, her counsel on family duty emphasizes the husband's role as a caretaker. He has a "duty to do at home which you cannot shun and yet be true to God and to your God-given trust." (4T 381.1) This trust would apply to all his dependents. In summary, while Ellen White strongly condemns the practice of polygamy, her writings indicate that a man who is already in such a relationship has a sacred duty to provide for, protect, and treat with justice both of his wives and all of his children. The solution is not to create a greater injustice by abandoning one family, but to manage the difficult situation with Christian principles of responsibility and care.

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Of course. Here are several quotes from Ellen G. White on the importance of soul-winning and the spiritual condition of those who neglect this work. ### The Essence and Importance of Soul-Winning Ellen White presents soul-winning not merely as an activity, but as the very lifeblood of the Christian experience and the church's primary mission. 1. **It is the Work of Every True Disciple:** * "The Saviour's commission, 'Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature,' is addressed to every one of His followers. All who are ordained to the life of Christ are ordained to work for the salvation of their fellow men." (MH 148.3) * "Every true disciple is born into the kingdom of God as a missionary. He who drinks of the living water becomes a fountain of life. The receiver becomes a giver." (DA 195.2) 2. **It is the Highest Calling:** * "To save souls is the highest work in which human beings can engage. In this work they are God's helping hand. They are His instrumentalities, through whom He works." (6T 339.1) * "The work of soul-winning is the most noble of all sciences. It is the science of the gospel." (4T 385.1) 3. **It Connects Us to Christ's Sacrifice:** * "When you have a sense of the sacrifice that Christ has made in order to save a perishing world, as you see the great need of souls, you will be filled with a holy zeal to be a co-laborer with Christ." (Ev 30.2) * "The church of Christ on earth was organized for missionary purposes, and the Lord desires to see the entire church devising ways and means whereby high and low, rich and poor, may hear the message of truth." (6T 29.2) ### On Those Who Do Not Engage in Soul-Winning Ellen White warns that neglecting the work of sharing the gospel leads to spiritual weakness and stagnation. 1. **Spiritual Stagnation and Death:** * "The very life of the church depends upon her faithfulness in fulfilling the Lord's commission. To neglect this work is surely to invite spiritual feebleness and decay. Where there is no active labor for others, love wanes, and faith grows dim." (DA 825.2) * "Many are in the shades of death spiritually because they will not work to save the souls of their fellow men." (8T 74.2) 2. **Being a "Slothful Servant":** * "There are many who profess to be Christ's followers who are slothful servants. They have failed to co-operate with the Redeemer in the great work of saving souls. Christians who are not engaged in this work will be unable to stand in the day of God." (RH, August 1, 1893) * "Those who make no effort to enlighten others will not be rewarded for their supposed self-denial and sacrifice. It is the faithful servant who will hear the words, 'Well done.'" (5T 395.2) 3. **A Lack of True Conversion:** * "No one has been truly converted who does not feel a divine impulse to show forth the praises of Him who hath called him out of darkness into His marvelous light." (RH, June 28, 1892) * "If we are not laborers together with God, if we are not willing to do the work He has given us, we show that we have no connection with Him." (ST, June 17, 1897) In summary, Ellen White teaches that engaging in soul-winning is essential for a healthy spiritual life and is the fundamental purpose of the church. To neglect it is to risk spiritual decline and demonstrate a disconnect from Christ's mission.

Based on the principles in her writings, Ellen G. White’s counsel regarding someone already in a polygamous marriage with two wives and children would be centered on justice, responsibility, and upholding the sacredness of family ties, even in a situation that is contrary to God's original plan. Here’s a breakdown of her position: **1. Polygamy is Contrary to God's Will**: She is clear that God’s original plan was for one man and one woman. She states that polygamy was not sanctioned by God and brought great unhappiness. * "God gave Adam one wife, showing His order. He did not sanction polygamy in a single instance. It was contrary to His will. It was the work of man, the result of the fall." (3SG 99.1) * She described the result of Jacob having two wives as an "unhappy marriage, which was contrary to the will of God," ⚠️ Reference could not be verifiedleading to "jealousies and quarrels." (1SP 93.2) **2. Responsibility to Existing Wives and Children**: Despite polygamy being a sin, she does not advise that a man cast off a wife and her children, which would leave them without support and in disgrace. The principle of justice and mercy must be applied. The man has a solemn duty to care for the families he has created. * "If married men go into the work, leaving their wives to care for the children at home, the wife and mother is doing fully as great and important a work as the husband and father... The husband in the open missionary field may receive the honors of men, while the home toiler may receive no earthly credit for her labor. But if she works for the best interest of her family... the recording angel writes her name as one of the greatest missionaries in the world." (5T 594.2) This principle of responsibility to one's family would extend to all members of the household. **3. Upholding Justice and Kindness**: The primary duty is to act with fairness and compassion toward everyone involved, ensuring that the rights and well-being of both wives and all children are protected. * While not directly addressing a man with two wives, her counsel on family duty emphasizes the husband's role as a caretaker. He has a "duty to do at home which you cannot shun and yet be true to God and to your God-given trust." (4T 381.1) This trust would apply to all his dependents. In summary, while Ellen White strongly condemns the practice of polygamy, her writings indicate that a man who is already in such a relationship has a sacred duty to provide for, protect, and treat with justice both of his wives and all of his children. The solution is not to create a greater injustice by abandoning one family, but to manage the difficult situation with Christian principles of responsibility and care.

Based on your request "dou tu sors," which I understand as asking for more sources or a deeper explanation, here is a more detailed look at Ellen G. White's principles regarding a man already in a polygamous relationship with two wives and children. Her counsel is built on two main pillars: God's original plan for marriage and the Christian duty of justice and responsibility. ### Pillar 1: God's Unchanging Ideal for Marriage Ellen White is unequivocal that polygamy was never God's will. She points back to the creation account as the divine standard. * **The Original Plan:** "God gave Adam one wife, showing His order. He did not sanction polygamy in a single instance. It was contrary to His will. It was the work of man, the result of the fall." (3SG 99.1) * **Consequences of Departing from the Plan:** She consistently points out the negative consequences that arose from polygamy, even among the patriarchs. "The result of this unhappy marriage [of Jacob to two sisters], which was contrary to the will of God, was manifested in the jealousies and quarrels of the two sisters." (1SP 93.2) ### Pillar 2: The Duty of Justice and Responsibility While polygamy is a departure from God's ideal, Ellen White's writings strongly suggest that the solution is not to commit another wrong by abandoning a wife and children. The man has a solemn obligation to the families he has created. * **Do Not Create a Greater Sin:** The principle of justice would forbid a man from casting off a wife and her children, leaving them destitute and shamed. This would be a cruel and unjust act. While she doesn't address this exact scenario, her counsel on family duty is clear: a husband and father has a sacred trust. * **The Husband's Sacred Duty:** "The husband and father is the head of the household... He has a duty to do at home which you cannot shun and yet be true to God and to your God-given trust." (4T 381.1). This "God-given trust" would logically apply to all his dependents. * **Responsibility for Children:** She places immense importance on the care and upbringing of children. "Parents should feel that a sacred trust is committed to them to guard the physical, mental, and moral well-being of their children." (CG 161.2) . This responsibility would extend to all of his children, regardless of which wife is their mother. ### Summary of the Counsel Based on these principles, the counsel would be as follows: 1. **Acknowledge the Sin:** The man must recognize that the polygamous relationship is not in harmony with God's will. 2. **Uphold All Responsibilities:** He must not divorce or abandon either wife. Doing so would create immense suffering and would be an act of injustice. He is bound by a moral duty to provide for, protect, and treat with kindness both wives and all his children. 3. **Live a Life of Purity and Justice:** Within the difficult circumstances, he must live a life that honors God, treating each person in his household with fairness and compassion, and leading his families in a way that is as close to God's principles as the situation allows. In essence, while the *practice* of polygamy is condemned, the *people* involved must be treated with Christian love and justice. The solution is not to dissolve the existing family ties, but to manage them with unwavering responsibility and care.

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While Ellen White does not explicitly state that singleness is "harder" for young men than for young women, she does address the unique and distinct challenges that each face while unmarried. Her counsel suggests that young men often grapple with different, and at times more intense, internal and physical temptations. Here is a breakdown of the different challenges she outlines for unmarried young men and women: ### Challenges Emphasized for Young Men Ellen White’s counsel to single young men often centers on the need for self-control, purity of thought, and channeling their energies toward a noble purpose. 1. **Struggle with Passions:** She frequently warns young men about the dangers of uncontrolled passions and the importance of moral purity. * "The young are bewitched with the mania for courtship and marriage. Lovesick sentimentalism prevails. This is the disease of the age. ... The thoughts of young men and young women are so much occupied with this subject that they have no relish for religious exercises." (2T 460.2) * She speaks of the need for men to have "moral and intellectual power" and to not be "weakened and debased by the indulgence of the animal passions." (AH 51.1) 2. **The Need for a Settling, Refining Influence:** She presents a sanctified home and a godly wife as a powerful, positive influence that can protect a man from the world's temptations. * "After his marriage, his character is to be ennobled and refined, sanctified and elevated. ... A man can in a great degree be fashioned by his wife. It is in his power to choose a companion who will be a help and not a hindrance to him." (4T 603.1) * The implication is that without this influence, a young man may be more prone to aimlessness or succumbing to temptation. ### Challenges Emphasized for Young Women Her counsel to single young women focuses more on guarding their affections, exercising sound judgment in relationships, and avoiding emotional vulnerability. 1. **Guarding the Affections:** She repeatedly cautions young women not to give their love away hastily or to unworthy individuals. * "Let a young woman accept as a life companion only one who possesses pure, manly traits of character, one who is diligent, aspiring, and honest, one who loves and fears God." (MH 359.2) * "Keep your affections. Do not give them to a stranger. ... Guard well your affections. Do not bestow them upon an unworthy object." (LYL 31.3) 2. **Avoiding Deception and Frivolity:** She warns against being swayed by flattery or superficial attractions, urging them to look for true character. * "Little acts of flirtation, by young or old, married or unmarried, are an offense to God. ... These things are a snare to the soul, leading away from God." (AH 300.2) * "Be not in haste to fall in love. Let the eye be single to the glory of God. Let there be no selfish motive." (2T 250.1) ### Summary In conclusion, Ellen White does not declare singleness to be definitively "harder" for one gender over the other. Instead, she identifies different areas of struggle: * For **young men**, the challenge is often portrayed as an internal battle against strong physical passions and the need for a stabilizing purpose that a godly marriage can help provide. * For **young women**, the challenge is often portrayed as an external and emotional one: guarding their hearts from deception, making a wise choice of partner, and not being led astray by superficiality. The perception that it might be "harder" for men could stem from her strong emphasis on the intensity of the battle for moral purity that she describes for them.

Based on your request "dou tu sors," which I understand as asking for more sources or a deeper explanation, here is a more detailed look at Ellen G. White's principles regarding a man already in a polygamous relationship with two wives and children. Her counsel is built on two main pillars: God's original plan for marriage and the Christian duty of justice and responsibility. ### Pillar 1: God's Unchanging Ideal for Marriage Ellen White is unequivocal that polygamy was never God's will. She points back to the creation account as the divine standard. * **The Original Plan:** "God gave Adam one wife, showing His order. He did not sanction polygamy in a single instance. It was contrary to His will. It was the work of man, the result of the fall." (3SG 99.1) * **Consequences of Departing from the Plan:** She consistently points out the negative consequences that arose from polygamy, even among the patriarchs. "The result of this unhappy marriage [of Jacob to two sisters], which was contrary to the will of God, was manifested in the jealousies and quarrels of the two sisters." (1SP 93.2) ### Pillar 2: The Duty of Justice and Responsibility While polygamy is a departure from God's ideal, Ellen White's writings strongly suggest that the solution is not to commit another wrong by abandoning a wife and children. The man has a solemn obligation to the families he has created. * **Do Not Create a Greater Sin:** The principle of justice would forbid a man from casting off a wife and her children, leaving them destitute and shamed. This would be a cruel and unjust act. While she doesn't address this exact scenario, her counsel on family duty is clear: a husband and father has a sacred trust. * **The Husband's Sacred Duty:** "The husband and father is the head of the household... He has a duty to do at home which you cannot shun and yet be true to God and to your God-given trust." (4T 381.1). This "God-given trust" would logically apply to all his dependents. * **Responsibility for Children:** She places immense importance on the care and upbringing of children. "Parents should feel that a sacred trust is committed to them to guard the physical, mental, and moral well-being of their children." (CG 161.2) . This responsibility would extend to all of his children, regardless of which wife is their mother. ### Summary of the Counsel Based on these principles, the counsel would be as follows: 1. **Acknowledge the Sin:** The man must recognize that the polygamous relationship is not in harmony with God's will. 2. **Uphold All Responsibilities:** He must not divorce or abandon either wife. Doing so would create immense suffering and would be an act of injustice. He is bound by a moral duty to provide for, protect, and treat with kindness both wives and all his children. 3. **Live a Life of Purity and Justice:** Within the difficult circumstances, he must live a life that honors God, treating each person in his household with fairness and compassion, and leading his families in a way that is as close to God's principles as the situation allows. In essence, while the *practice* of polygamy is condemned, the *people* involved must be treated with Christian love and justice. The solution is not to dissolve the existing family ties, but to manage them with unwavering responsibility and care.

Claro. Para ampliar el tema y "rescatar" los principios más importantes del consejo de Ellen G. White sobre cómo debe actuar un hombre que ya se encuentra en una relación polígama, aquí hay un desglose más detallado con citas clave. Su consejo se basa en dos pilares fundamentales: el plan original de Dios para el matrimonio y el deber cristiano de justicia y responsabilidad. ### Pilar 1: El Ideal Inmutable de Dios para el Matrimonio Ellen White es inequívoca en que la poligamia nunca fue la voluntad de Dios. Ella siempre se remite al relato de la creación como el estándar divino. * **El Plan Original:** "Dios le dio a Adán una sola esposa, mostrando así Su orden. Él no sancionó la poligamia en ningún caso. Era contraria a Su voluntad. Fue obra del hombre, resultado de la caída" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (3SG 99.1) * **Consecuencias de Apartarse del Plan:** Ella señala constantemente las consecuencias negativas que surgieron de la poligamia, incluso entre los patriarcas. * "El resultado de este infeliz matrimonio [de Jacob con dos hermanas], que era contrario a la voluntad de Dios, se manifestó en los celos y las disputas de las dos hermanas" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (1SP 93.2) * "La poligamia se había extendido tanto que había dejado de ser considerada un pecado; pero era una violación de la ley de Dios y estaba llena de los más desastrosos resultados para la felicidad del hombre" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (PP 338.2) ### Pilar 2: El Deber de Justicia y Responsabilidad Aunque la poligamia es una desviación del ideal de Dios, los escritos de Ellen White sugieren firmemente que la solución no es cometer otro mal abandonando a una esposa y a sus hijos. El hombre tiene una obligación solemne hacia las familias que ha creado. * **No Crear un Pecado Mayor:** El principio de justicia prohibiría a un hombre repudiar a una esposa y a sus hijos, dejándolos en la indigencia y la vergüenza. Esto sería un acto cruel e injusto. Aunque no aborda este escenario exacto, su consejo sobre el deber familiar es claro: un esposo y padre tiene una confianza sagrada. * **El Deber Sagrado del Esposo:** "El esposo y padre es la cabeza de la familia... Tiene un deber que hacer en casa que no puede eludir y seguir siendo fiel a Dios y a la confianza que Él le ha dado" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (4T 381.1). Esta "confianza dada por Dios" se aplicaría lógicamente a todos sus dependientes. * **Responsabilidad por los Hijos:** Ella le da una inmensa importancia al cuidado y la crianza de los hijos. "Los padres deben sentir que se les ha encomendado una confianza sagrada para proteger el bienestar físico, mental y moral de sus hijos" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (CG 161.2) . Esta responsabilidad se extendería a todos sus hijos, sin importar cuál de las esposas sea su madre. ### Resumen del Consejo (Puntos Clave a "Rescatar") Basado en estos principios, el consejo práctico sería el siguiente: 1. **Reconocer el Error:** El hombre debe admitir que la relación polígama no está en armonía con la voluntad de Dios. 2. **Cumplir con Todas las Responsabilidades:** No debe divorciarse ni abandonar a ninguna de las esposas. Hacerlo crearía un inmenso sufrimiento y sería un acto de injusticia. Está obligado por un deber moral a proveer, proteger y tratar con amabilidad a ambas esposas y a todos sus hijos. 3. **Vivir una Vida de Pureza y Justicia:** Dentro de las difíciles circunstancias, debe vivir una vida que honre a Dios, tratando a cada persona en su hogar con equidad y compasión, y guiando a sus familias de una manera que se acerque lo más posible a los principios de Dios. En esencia, aunque la *práctica* de la poligamia es condenada, las *personas* involucradas deben ser tratadas con amor y justicia cristianos. La solución no es disolver los lazos familiares existentes, sino gestionarlos con una responsabilidad y un cuidado inquebrantables.

Of course. Based on your request for more sources ("dou tu sors"), here is a more detailed look at Ellen G. White's principles regarding a man already in a polygamous relationship with two wives and children. Her counsel is built on two main pillars: God's original plan for marriage and the Christian duty of justice and responsibility. ### Pillar 1: God's Unchanging Ideal for Marriage Ellen White is unequivocal that polygamy was never God's will. She points back to the creation account as the divine standard. * **The Original Plan:** "God gave Adam one wife, showing His order. He did not sanction polygamy in a single instance. It was contrary to His will. It was the work of man, the result of the fall." (3SG 99.1) * **Consequences of Departing from the Plan:** She consistently points out the negative consequences that arose from polygamy, even among the patriarchs. "The result of this unhappy marriage [of Jacob to two sisters], which was contrary to the will of God, was manifested in the jealousies and quarrels of the two sisters." (1SP 93.2) ### Pillar 2: The Duty of Justice and Responsibility While polygamy is a departure from God's ideal, Ellen White's writings strongly suggest that the solution is not to commit another wrong by abandoning a wife and children. The man has a solemn obligation to the families he has created. * **Do Not Create a Greater Sin:** The principle of justice would forbid a man from casting off a wife and her children, leaving them destitute and shamed. This would be a cruel and unjust act. While she doesn't address this exact scenario, her counsel on family duty is clear: a husband and father has a sacred trust. * **The Husband's Sacred Duty:** "The husband and father is the head of the household... He has a duty to do at home which you cannot shun and yet be true to God and to your God-given trust." (4T 381.1). This "God-given trust" would logically apply to all his dependents. * **Responsibility for Children:** She places immense importance on the care and upbringing of children. "Parents should feel that a sacred trust is committed to them to guard the physical, mental, and moral well-being of their children." (CG 161.2) . This responsibility would extend to all of his children, regardless of which wife is their mother. ### Summary of the Counsel Based on these principles, the counsel would be as follows: 1. **Acknowledge the Sin:** The man must recognize that the polygamous relationship is not in harmony with God's will. 2. **Uphold All Responsibilities:** He must not divorce or abandon either wife. Doing so would create immense suffering and would be an act of injustice. He is bound by a moral duty to provide for, protect, and treat with kindness both wives and all his children. 3. **Live a Life of Purity and Justice:** Within the difficult circumstances, he must live a life that honors God, treating each person in his household with fairness and compassion, and leading his families in a way that is as close to God's principles as the situation allows. In essence, while the *practice* of polygamy is condemned, the *people* involved must be treated with Christian love and justice. The solution is not to dissolve the existing family ties, but to manage them with unwavering responsibility and care.

Claro. Aquí tienes un análisis detallado de lo que Ellen G. White escribió sobre el texto de Génesis 12:10, donde Abram va a Egipto debido a una hambruna. Ella presenta este episodio como una prueba de fe para Abram y una lección sobre la importancia de confiar plenamente en Dios. ### El Contexto: La Prueba de Fe Poco después de que Abram llegara a Canaán, la tierra prometida, Dios permitió que una hambruna probara su fe. En lugar de confiar en que Dios lo sostendría en la tierra a la que lo había guiado, Abram recurrió a su propio juicio. * **La Duda de Abram:** "Poco después de su llegada a Canaán, Abram fue probado en su fe. Una hambruna asoló la tierra, y se hizo difícil permanecer en el lugar donde había acampado. Como Dios lo había guiado hasta allí, ¿no proveería para él? Abram comenzó a perder la confianza en Dios. No se quedó donde Dios lo había puesto. Miró hacia la tierra fértil de Egipto... y decidió ir allí" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (Traducción de *The Story of Redemption*, p. 77.2) ### El Error: La Falta de Confianza y el Engaño El mayor error de Abram no fue solo ir a Egipto, sino la falta de fe que lo llevó a engañar sobre la identidad de Sarai. Temía que los egipcios lo mataran para tomar a su hermosa esposa, así que le pidió que dijera que era su hermana. * **Un Acto de Desconfianza:** "Al ir a Egipto, Abram demostró que no estaba libre de la debilidad y la imperfección humanas. Al ocultar el hecho de que Sara era su esposa, desconfió del cuidado divino, una falta de esa fe y ese valor elevados que tan frecuente y noblemente había ejemplificado en su vida" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (Patriarcas y Profetas, p. 130.1) * **Las Consecuencias del Miedo:** "Estaba a punto de entrar en contacto con un pueblo pagano. No tenía la seguridad de que sería tratado con justicia y rectitud, y su fe en Dios vaciló. Su esposa era 'muy hermosa', y temía que los egipcios paganos codiciaran a la hermosa extranjera y, para obtenerla, no dudarían en matar a su esposo" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (Traducción de *The Signs of the Times*, 29 de abril de 1886) ### La Intervención Divina y la Reprensión A pesar de la falta de fe de Abram, Dios no lo abandonó. Intervino para proteger a Sarai y, al hacerlo, reprendió a Abram a través de un gobernante pagano, el Faraón. * **Dios Protege a Sarai:** "Pero el Señor, en su gran misericordia, protegió a Sara enviando juicios sobre la casa del Faraón. Por este medio, el rey se enteró de la verdad del asunto, y, airado por el engaño que se le había practicado, reprendió a Abram y le devolvió a su esposa" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (Patriarcas y Profetas, p. 130.2) * **La Humillación de Abram:** "Abram se había puesto en gran peligro y había puesto en peligro la causa de Dios por su falta de fe. El Señor vio en Abram un hombre que, si era instruido, no se apartaría del camino del Señor. Pero Dios permitió que su siervo fuera probado severamente para enseñarle una lección de dependencia de Dios que no olvidaría... ¡Qué severa reprensión recibió del rey pagano! '¿Qué es esto que has hecho conmigo?'" (Traducción de *The Signs of the Times*, 29 de abril de 1886) ⚠️ Reference could not be verified ### La Lección Principal Ellen G. White utiliza esta historia para enseñar una lección fundamental: la confianza total en Dios es el único camino seguro. El juicio humano y los planes basados en el miedo a menudo nos llevan al peligro del que intentamos escapar. * **La Lección Aprendida:** "Abram había aprendido una lección valiosa. Aprendió a no apartarse del camino de estricta integridad, sin importar las dificultades en las que pudiera encontrarse. Vio la locura de depender de la astucia humana, que en el mejor de los casos es debilidad" ⚠️ Reference could not be verified. (Traducción de *The Story of Redemption*, p. 78.1) En resumen, para Ellen G. White, el viaje de Abram a Egipto es un ejemplo poderoso de cómo incluso los grandes siervos de Dios pueden flaquear en su fe. Sin embargo, también es una demostración de la misericordia de Dios, que protege a sus hijos a pesar de sus errores y utiliza esas experiencias para enseñarles a depender completamente de Él.

# The Nature Christ Assumed at the Incarnation Ellen White taught that Jesus took upon Himself **our fallen human nature** — the same nature that humanity has carried since the fall of Adam. She wrote that "by assuming human nature, Christ elevates humanity" (SC 15.2), and more specifically, that "Christ assumed our nature to counterwork Satan's false principles" (17MR 24.4). ## He Took the Nature We Have The documents make clear that Christ did not assume the nature Adam had before the fall, but rather the nature of fallen humanity. Ellen White states that "He has taken upon Himself our nature. He was tempted in [all] points like as we are" (17MR 336). This is crucial — Christ experienced the same human weaknesses, temptations, and struggles that we face. She further explains that "Christ stooped to take man's nature that He might reveal God's sentiments toward the fallen race. Divinity and humanity combined were brought within the reach of all, that fallen man might reveal the image of God" (17MR 24.4). The phrase "fallen man" here is significant — Christ came to reach fallen humanity by taking on that same fallen nature. ## Why This Matters The purpose of Christ assuming our nature was multifaceted. First, it was to provide a complete pattern for humanity: "Jesus took upon Himself man's nature, that He might leave a pattern for humanity, complete, perfect" (5T 235.3). Second, it was to demonstrate that victory over sin is possible even in fallen human nature when connected to divine power. Ellen White emphasizes that "through connection with Christ, they may indeed become worthy of the name 'sons of God'" (SC 15.2). Christ's assumption of our nature was not just theoretical — it was practical, showing us that transformation is possible. ## The Mystery of Divinity and Humanity Combined While Christ took our nature, He remained divine. Ellen White acknowledges this mystery: Christ condescended to assume human nature, but the dwarfed powers of man were unable through ignorance to comprehend or distinguish the divine" (1888 260.2). The divine nature was veiled within the human form, yet both were present. She explains that "divinity was revealed in humanity; the invisible glory in the visible human form" (COL 17). This combination of divinity and humanity is what made Christ's life and sacrifice so powerful — He was fully God yet fully experienced our human condition. --- 💡 **You might also want to explore:** • What does Ellen White say about how Christ's divine nature helped Him overcome temptation while in human flesh? • How does Christ's assumption of our nature affect our ability to overcome sin today? • What did Ellen White teach about the difference between Christ's sinless character and His fallen human nature? --- 📚 **thousands of passages found** containing these search terms — [Explore in Full-Text Search](/advanced-search?q=What+kind+of+human+nature+did+Ellen+White+taught+that+Jesus+assumed+at+the+incarnation%3F)

# Did Christ's Humanity Have Inward Corruption? **No.** Ellen White explicitly stated that Christ's humanity did **not** possess inward corruption or sinful propensities. While He took upon Himself our fallen human nature and was "tempted in [all] points like as we are" (17MR 336), He remained "untainted by corruption, though surrounded with it" (17MR 337.2). ## The Critical Distinction Ellen White made a crucial distinction that we must not miss. She warned directly against the idea that Christ had the same sinful nature as fallen humanity: "But here we must not become in our ideas common and earthly, and in our perverted ideas we must not think that the liability of Christ to yield to Satan's temptations degraded His humanity and He possessed the same sinful, corrupt propensities as man" (16MR 182.2). This statement is unambiguous. While Christ assumed human nature and faced real temptations, His humanity was fundamentally different from ours in that it lacked the inward corruption and sinful propensities that characterize fallen human nature. ## Untainted by Sin The documents emphasize repeatedly that Christ remained pure throughout His earthly life. "In Christ dwelt the fullness of the Godhead bodily. This is why, although tempted in all points like as we are, He stood before the world, from His first entrance into it, untainted by corruption, though surrounded with it" (17MR 337.2). Similarly, "Christ in the weakness of humanity was to meet the temptations of one possessing the power of the higher nature that God had bestowed on the angelic family. But His humanity was united with divinity, and in this strength He would bear all the temptations that Satan could bring against Him, and yet keep His soul untainted by sin" (17MR 32.1). ## The Mystery of the Incarnation The key to understanding this is recognizing that Christ's humanity was united with divinity. He experienced human weakness and faced genuine temptation, but the divine nature dwelling within Him kept His soul pure from inward corruption. This union of divinity and humanity enabled Him to face every temptation Satan could bring while remaining completely untainted by sin. --- 💡 **You might also want to explore:** • How could Christ be truly tempted if He had no inward sinful propensities? • What does Ellen White mean when she says Christ took our "fallen nature"? • How does Christ's sinless humanity enable Him to be our Savior and example?

# What Ellen White Meant by Christ Taking Our "Fallen Nature" When Ellen White says Christ took our "fallen nature," she means He assumed the **physical and mental weaknesses** that humanity has experienced since Adam's fall, while remaining **completely free from sin and sinful propensities**. This is a crucial distinction in her writings. ## He Took the Nature Weakened by Sin The documents show that Christ "assumed our fallen nature, and was subject to every temptation to which man is subject" (17MR 29.4). This means He experienced the same physical vulnerabilities, mental struggles, and external temptations that we face. Ellen White explains that "He has taken upon Himself our nature. He was tempted in [all] points like as we are" (17MR 336). The phrase "fallen nature" refers to humanity's condition after the fall — the weakened physical constitution, the susceptibility to suffering, hunger, fatigue, and death. She writes that "the fallen nature of man is like the vine's tendrils grasping the stubble and rubbish. But Christ is represented as coming down from heaven and taking the nature of man" (17MR 27.6). He entered into our weakened human condition. ## But Without Sin or Sinful Tendencies However — and this is critical — taking our fallen nature did **not** mean Christ possessed inward corruption or sinful propensities. As we saw in the previous conversation, Ellen White explicitly stated: "Though He had no taint of sin upon His character, yet He condescended to connect our fallen human nature with His divinity" (3SM 134). The purpose was redemptive: "By thus taking humanity, He honored humanity. Having taken our fallen nature, He showed what it might become, by accepting the ample provision He has made for it, and by becoming partaker of the divine nature" (3SM 134). ## Why This Matters for Us Ellen White's point is profoundly practical. Christ took our weakened human nature to demonstrate that **victory over sin is possible even in our fallen condition**. She writes: "Christ assumed our nature to counterwork Satan's false principles" (17MR 24.4). He proved that fallen humanity, when connected to divine power, can overcome. The documents emphasize that "He assumed human nature, and was tempted in all points like man is tempted, that we might know how to meet the foe. He waits to impart to each member of the human family power to become a partaker of the divine nature, power to overcome the corruption that is in the world through lust" (17MR 83). In summary: "fallen nature" means the weakened physical and mental condition of humanity after the fall, complete susceptibility to temptation, but **not** the presence of sinful desires or corruption within. Christ took the former to show us how to overcome the latter. --- 💡 **You might also want to explore:** • How did Christ's victory over temptation in fallen human nature provide hope for us? • What does Ellen White mean by partaker of the divine nature? • What practical steps did Ellen White recommend for overcoming temptation as Christ did?